Friday, October 15, 2010

I vote "No" Mosque so close to ground zero

When O'Rielly argued with the ladies on the view this past week and stated that it was "Muslims that attacked us on 9/11", the ladies got all in a huff stating that he shouldn't blame the entire Muslim people and that he shouldn't lump them all together to insinuate that they are all terrorists. I think what O'Rielly was saying was similar to what we all do when we are talking war. "the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor", "The Germans murdered Jews", "The British are coming!" We've always lumped people together. We do that to ourselves. Honestly, all the attackers and Master Mines on 9/11 were Muslim. Radical yes...but they carry the name and they even admit that they did it in the name of Islam. Is that to say that we should have said..."The Radical Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor" and the "Radical Germans murdered the Jews" and "the Radical British are coming"? No....because everyone already knows that not the entire nation of Japan attacked Pearl Harbor....their government made that decision. Same with the Germans and the British. If those women of the view think that we viewers are so stupid to hear O'Rielly say that "the Muslims attacked us on 9/11" and we are all sitting there thinking that the entire Muslim population were in on that...then they are just rediculous. I'm not so stupid to sit there and think that. I know what he meant. And although I am not opposed to the Muslims building their mosques in our country, after all, we have our Christian churches and temples built through out the world, I do beleive that out of respect for those families and those people that lived through the horror of 9/11, they should sell the land they purchased and build their Mosque further away from the actual site of where 9/11 occurred. It is kind of a knife twisting thing to have it built there. I think that would be the honorable thing to do.

6 comments:

Alan said...

You make an interesting point. Another guest on The Factor chided O'Reilly for saying "Muslim Terrorists," and only two minutes later used the same expression, which seems to support your argument.
Whoopi and Joy, in betrayal of their names, always seem to be upset about something. Actually, it appeared to me that Whoopi followed Joy to give her moral support, and it was Joy who was not joyful despite the following whoopie. Nevertheless, it seems bad form to me to stomp off one's own show.

dworth said...

I am not concerned about who walked out on who. However, I just cannot understand why Muslims should consider for even a second moving their place of worship, which is holy to them, away from Ground Zero. They have every legal and moral right to build it there. I am not for building a mosque anywhere whatsoever, but if they have the right moral and political, what could possibly be a reasonable objection? If objections are just based on feelings/emotions, and not reason, I think the objections are too weak to be taken seriously.

May I ask then how many blocks do you think is appropriate?

Teresa said...

They haven't built it yet, thus they arn't moving it. No one is asking to them close up shop and leave...they are asking them to not start it there in the first place. And I agree all of this is based on feelings and emotions. Which in my opinion should never be discounted against reason or logic. Logic isn't always human and logic isn't always right. It is my opinion that they should play to the human side in a case like this. That is reason. Sometimes we make decisions based on logic, and some times we make decisions based on human emotion, and in the end, human emotion is much more real to me than logic. I am so not an intellectual, nor am I an eloquent speaker or writer, but I do know when allowance for emotional healing should come into play before logic. This is one of those cases. Thus my opinion here is all based on emotions. Not ashamed of that at all!

Alan said...

A few or more points:
1. The mosque is absolutely legal, so if it is to be built, there is not one thing anyone can do about it. So being the pragmatist that I am, we need to just deal with it.
2. It appears the guy wanting to build the mosque does not have the funds to build it. His aim is to make a big deal out of it so as to attract donors. So far as I have heard, there have been no major donors, so the project is dead in the water as it stands now.
3. Ground Zero is a sensitive location, but not holy ground. There is no direct religious interest in the site itself.
4. The expression "moral right" is a loaded expression. I will not wade into that here.

Teresa said...

What does "moral right" mean?

dworth said...

1- The mosque is legal. We all agree on that.
2- Yes 'moral right' is a loaded term. What I mean is that it is appropriate for them to build it there because of precedents that we all accept: building a place of worship is moral thing to do. But I am willing to toss this comment out since all that really matters is the legal aspect.
3- I understand that no one is telling/asking them to not build a mosque anywhere, but my question is still valid: if one isn't comfortable with the mosque being built two blocks away...how many blocks would make it ok? Why is an answer to this question important? The answer is important because it underscores the reality that there is not a reasonable answer to it, that reason is not a sufficient part of the argument against that location for the mosque.