Thursday, October 2, 2008

McCain's Immoral Past

This blog entry will not please most of you.  You may well figure that I am just flinging mud.  I have done my best to state facts or at least what John McCain himself has admitted to.  I certainly interject my feeling about what I write.   I hope you will investigate my statements yourself.

Here goes.  It is common enough for young men and women to not obey the laws of chastity propagated by most religions.  Outside of religions and inside of of some religions, it is even deemed quite normal for young people to experiment with sex.  But most of the religiously inclined who support the Republican Party and its candidates do not think like this.   They have very dour judgments of those who step outside of the moral strictures that are an integral part of their religious values.

It is for this reason that I think that it is important to talk about John McCain and his sexual choices in his life.  His life does not portray the moral life that many God-fearing voters believe to be of capital importance.

First of all, as a young man fully aware of what society approves of, McCain engaged in many sexual encounters while in the military and before marrying his first wife, Carol.  He was known as a real party goes and has admitted as much.  He partied and drank and had sex with the best of them.  During this time all-nighters and loose morals established his womanizing reputation.  During this time, he was smitten by and slept with a stripper known as the 'Flame of Florida".  His affair included a model from Brazil that he has proudly spoken of since.  What is important to note is that McCain has not repented of this kind of activity.  To his real credit, he has spoken and written about it openly.  He has done so with near pride, certainly  no remorse.  

He married when he was 28.  Her name was Carol and she had two kids from a previous marriage.  She had been a model, was tall and slender.  Thereafter he was sent to Vietnam.  She was the woman of whom he had dreamed while a prisoner of war in Hanoi.  When he came back, he discovered something awful:  Carol had nearly been killed in a terrible auto accident.  She had been thrown from the car and was found in the snow nearly dead.  She underwent multiple surgeries, time in a wheelchair and with a catheter.   When McCain returned, she was no longer the physical beauty that he had married and of whom he had dreamed.  McCain has admitted to having had extra-marital affairs during the time he was married to Carol and after his return from war.  Many years later, while still married to Carol, McCain began pursuing Cindy. There are various accounts about what went on, but the facts are clear:  he was pursuing Cindy actively while still married to Carol,  I will spare you the details that you can find for yourselves.  But the divorce record (from Carol) and marriage license (to Cindy) show a five week difference.  He actually acquired the marriage license for his marriage to Cindy while still married to Carol.  Cindy too is slender and beautiful.  The pattern held.

This does not speak well of Cindy either if you cling to certain morals.  Is it not fair to ask what kind of woman maintains an affair with a married man?  Cindy's addiction to drugs and some theft of the drugs she was addicted to (à la Rush Limbaugh) cast a further shadow on our possible First Lady.

So here is man for whom many of you intend to vote for our president.  A man with a long sexual history, who cheated extensively on his wife, a wife who was no longer physically attractive due to a terrible accident.  A woman who had taken care of his children and remained faithful to him during his emprisonment in Vietnam.  To top it all off, to replace Carol, he just happened to choose a woman who has money, a great deal of money.  How very convenient for him.  John McCain is a man who has gone after what he wants regardless of morals that constrain others.  The irony of all this is that this man is the presidential candidate for the Republican Party.  The Republican Party that so proudly brandishes family values, calls itself the party of 'values voters', that eschews sex before marriage, that holds marriage so sacred that it can't allow gays to have access to the institution even only civil, that viciously went after Bill Clinton, Gary Hart, and numerous other Democrats whose sexual escapades seemed to shock the RP faithful, that distinguishes itself from Democrats by its claim to a higher morality.
And the Republican Party chose this man, unrepentant in many respects, as its candidate?
The hypocrisy is thick.

That McCain is who he is, that he has the past that he has, is of no consequence to me personally.  I do not even reproach him his sexual dalliances.  I do not judge his young sexual life negatively at all.  I think it is quite normal.  For the most part, I'll bet, most men even admire him for it.  What I cannot accept however is the hypocrisy of the Republican Party that strives so ardently to separate itself from Democrats based the very principles that John McCain has so brazenly flaunted a good part of his life.   Any excuses for this?

Vote for him if you will, but if you do, don't bring up 'family values' or 'values' as a reason to vote for him like some of you have done.   

To my knowledge, Obama has been faithful to his wife and she to him.  He experimented as a young man too, but the difference between them on these counts is indisputable.

In full disclosure, if you go to the following sites, you will find that Carol, his first wife, endorses John and doesn't seem to harbor ill will.  You will recall that McCain has said that the failure of his first marriage is his fault and his greatest moral failure.  
Fine.  But you can't  put lipstick on this pig and pretend it isn't a pig.

And oh yea, Sarah Palin is distinctly attractive, I am sure that Mr. McCain did not fail to notice. 

I recommend  snopes.com , factcheck.com or Wickpedia search Carol McCain, or any other search you may like.  There are also books by John McCain himself that corroborate what I have written.  

10 comments:

Alan said...

I don't have the time to confirm your research, so I will accept it as you state it.
It is well known that military personnel, in general, are not icons of sexual morality, and no one here nor are religious conservatives in general touting John McCain as someone who embodies their moral values. In fact, if religious conservatives had their way, John McCain would not be the nominee. Religious conservatives only fully came on board when he selected Palin.

So what do you expect conservatives to do? - vote Obama because John McCain was naughty? McCain is more likely to govern in a conservative manner than Obama (Duh!), so conservatives will vote for McCain anyway.

Obama has clearly stated that he believes marriage should be between a man and a woman only, but surely you are going to vote for him anyway even though he does not perfectly embody your beliefs. You will vote for him because he will govern in a manner most harmonious to your belief system.

Obama has had a political relationship with Bill Ayers, an unrepentant terrorist who has admitted to killing people. He kicked off his first campaign for political office at his home, so Bill Ayers is more that just "some guy that I know." Surely you will vote for Obama despite his associations with a known terrorist (Bill Ayers) and a known racist (Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright). Surely Obama does not embody your entire belief system, and he probably even associates with people whose beliefs you would abhor.

So your appeal to conservative moral sensibilities is fine, but the door swings both ways.

Brian said...

I was going to post a reply but Alan did it better than I could have. If the religeous conservatives had their way it would have been Huckabee or Romney but we have what we have and believe he is better than Obama at governing.

Not to look in the past, but from time to time I thought Doug was writing a post about the Democratic Icon of Bill Clinton who has been repeatedly accused of not consensual improprieties but multiple rapes and is not repentant of those.

Kim said...

I just say let he who is without sin cast the first stone. I'm not going to even pick the stone up.

Isabelle said...

I can't believe that you guys are even talking about this. Kim is right who is without sin cast the first stone. Thank goch, I am not running for the presidency, I know I have a lot of skeliton in my closet, but I also know that I am not the same person I was when I was in my 20's.

Also perhaps none of you saw that debate last night. Both VP publically stated that they did not support gay marriages. That actually surprised me. They did say though that they felt that Gays/Lesbians in a committed relationship should be able to get some of the benefits that hedrosexual couples have such as life insurance. I actually agree with that.

What does that make me? An independent?


All I can say, I love you all.

dworth said...

To Alan,

Five minutes on any of the three websites I mentioned will give you the story. No reason to do research.

I already said what I expect conservatives to do.
Avoid hypocrisy, vote for McCain for any reason you like, just don't say that you are voting for him because you agree with his 'values' or because you are a 'values' voter.

As for Obama and gay marriage, I am voting for him because he will not endorse a constitutional amendment to restrict marriage to heterosexuals.
McCain endorses the notion and actively promoted Arizona's Constitutional change. It is a race for time. Eventually, there will be much less resistance to gay participation in this civil liberty. The goal is to avoid a federal constitutional amendment that would render such a change really, really difficult, maybe impossible. My vote for Obama is a calculated one. If he ever says during this campaign that he supports a federal constitutional amendment in this regard, I will remove bumper stickers, yard signs, and will actively encourage my friends not to vote for him. I will rend my Obama tee-shirts and use them as rags to clean my toilet.
This is another subject worthy of a greater discussion.

I will do research on Bill Ayers.

As for Jeremiah Wright, I have not heard any racist comments from him IF taken in the entire context. It is very important to do that. He may have made such comments, but I have yet to hear them. Obama dumped him because Wright would not shut up and Obama had to distance himself from him in order to win. That is politics.

To Brian,

Rapes by Bill Clinton? Multiple rapes, really? In this case, convictions not accusations will be necessary if you want to convince me. Or at the very least, a list of the multiple accusations that I can verify. This seems wildly spurious. I do not contest that he had sex outside of marriage of course. But remember, my point is the hypocrisy of the Republican Party. It is its claim to a higher morality that puts it in particular peril when it comes to my accusations. The hypocrisy is important here because the 'values' hammer is one of the principal tools of the Republican Party. It is not a minor thing with them. Some members of our family are basing their vote on 'values' that John McCain has not demonstrated a respect for in his life. I think it is very fair political conversation to point this out.

By the way, I had a handsome large coffee table picture book of the Clinton Years that I used to proudly display. I have removed it and have been considering throwing it in the trash, but not for the reasons you might expect.

To Kim,

Why now the concern not to throw stones? Obama Biden Laden, bum fodder, what is throwing stones if not name calling?

To Isabelle,

Remember the crux of my post had to do with hypocrisy. I said that I didn't judge him negatively for his improprieties.

How nice! I get some of the benefits you get. How very generous.

Thank you, Isabelle, as well for stating what we all think. We love each other as family. Our conversations,however heated, ought to strengthen that.

Alan said...

Your point is well taken.
Conservatives should not vote for John McCain for his moral values, but my point is that they aren't. They are voting for him for other reasons. Your point should also apply to Obama voters. Obama supporters should not vote for Obama if they are for solving global warming. Obama is for coal-fired power (clean coal? - sure, and the sky will turn green), so it would by hypocritical for the global warming crowd to vote for him.

My point is that one doesn't vote for the candidate who perfectly embodies one's beliefs. There is no such candidate. One votes for the person who best embodies his beliefs. So, I am not being hypocritical in voting for McCain, and you are not being hypocritical for voting for Obama.

dworth said...

True. I can live with your statement. There are litmus tests, lines beyond which we cannot go in our vote.
In another blog entry I mentioned one regarding Obama. You may have some regarding McCain, but his personal sexual values isn't one of them. Very fair. You have been consistent.

Teresa said...

Ok, when I talk "values", I am not just talking about sexual morality. In addition I am talking about the right to life, safe guarding the traditional union of husband and wife and stem cell research....etc. Alan is right, I vote republican, not because everyone who is a republican is completely true to all those values that I align myself too, but the republican party tends to adobt these values as a whole more closely than the democrats. Thus, my personal choice is to align myself with the former, which more closely represents my view as a whole. If I were not to vote for McCain because he, as most politians have some indiscretions in their past, we would not be able to vote for any one. We are all human, we have all made poor indiscretions in our life time. So, I don't always vote just for the candidate alone, sometimes I vote party lines, based on which party more closely represents me and my values.

dworth said...

Very nice response from Teresa. I know you all would have preferred someone different from McCain, I suppose Romney.

Teresa said...

Your are right, Romney was my first pick. Maybe he will try again in 4 years.